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  Post meaning of dream - Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:11 pm Reply with quote  
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Hi,
   Don't know if you can help, but I need answers to some questions I have about things and concerning recurring dreams I have been having since I was 12 years old, I am now 54, I have tried to get answers elsewhere for some years, but not had any help so far. The dreams always have the same themes, but I don't get them all the time, sometimes I can go for months or years, then something seems to trigger them off again. The dreams are as follows.

I find myself sat crossed legged, on top of a small hill. As I look around there is nothing but like a blue-green grass, as far as the eye can see, no one else is around and no animals. The land isn't level, there are other small, rounded hills. The day is pleasantly warm, and the breeze makes the grass sway, like waves on the sea.

I seem to have something like buckskin trousers on. The next thing, I am in a dark place, I don't know where, but I seem to be looking at myself. Through the darkness I can just make out that I seem to be a native Indian of some kind. My hair is long with like two braids at the front and I have a black band, around two inches wide, across my eyes and bridge of my nose to my ears, my skin is sweaty.

Around my neck there is some kind of necklace This necklace consists of a large eagle claw, the talons of which are firmly holding some kind of transparent blue stone, the size of a small chicken egg, eagle feathers are attached to the claw and some kind of beading. The blue stone is flawless having no marks on or in it, you can see straight through it. Any ideas what stone this could be?

Then I am inside a tepee of some kind. On the inside I see four shields, one has a large print of a hand on it, with a large dot to the right of it, near where the wrist would be, these are both in red. Another has what I now believe to be the image of a thunderbird, this is in black, I don't see what is on the other two shields. On the floor is what seem to be like fur rugs and some wooden structures, I don't know if these are boxes or some kind of seating.

I turn, and sat at the side of me is a young woman. She has long black hair, not tied or anything, beautiful looking with large hooped earrings in her ears. She has the same black band across her eyes as I have and seems to be mixing some kind of green herb in a dish.

On the outside of the tepee there are four images of thunderbirds, two are red, two black. Then I find myself with some other young men. We are walking through, like some kind of canyon, all around are like jagged peaks, they don't look like hills or mountains, just jagged peaks, lots of them together.

As we walk some men are carrying what seems to be a body, which is tightly bound in some kind of hide. We come to the bottom of a large cliff and one of the men starts to climb up the cliff, using hand holds, which if you didn't know they were there, you couldn't see. He gets about half way up the cliff then disappears into what must be a cave or hole in the face of the cliff, this cannot be seen from the base of the cliff.

He then throws down some ropes. The body is tied to these. The rest of us climb up and pull up the body and some other objects which were tied to the ropes. The body is placed inside what now looks like a small cave, but deep inside. The body is placed laid down facing the opening of the cave and the objects are placed at the side of the body, these are a lance, with two eagle feathers attached, shield with some kind of flash across it, like a lightening zigzag, in yellow, a small bow with three arrows in a colourful quiver, and three small dishes with like dry powder in them. We say a few words then climb down.

Then the next thing, I see myself walking through short grassland, but I seem to be looking from above and I seem to be walking in the middle of a small whirlwind, I can see the wind whirling around me as I walk, well I presume it is me as I am looking from above.

I have wondered for many years now what the meaning of the dreams are. I have had a deep interest in native American culture, for many years now and seem to find myself drawn to the Lakota Sioux.

I recently found a website with pictures of a native American man with a black band across his eyes and nose, for some unknown reason I started getting tears in my eyes and then they streamed down my face, luckily I was on my own or I would have felt a fool.

Do native Americans believe in reincarnation?

Also I had a strange thing happen to me around November last year, we had just lost my father in law at the time. I was in my garden at the back of my house. You have to go down five steps to get into the house, now as I walked down these steps, just as I came off the bottom step, a pebble rolled at the side of me, on the path at the bottom of the steps, as I stepped onto the path.

No one else was around and the neighbours were all at work, I looked all around and have no idea where this pebble came from. It is the size of a chicken egg, uneven all around. Now how it came to roll at the side of me I have no clue, especially with the shape of it, as, it actually rolled in a straight line for around two feet and stopped at the side of my foot as I put it down on the path. I tried numerous times to roll it in a straight line, afterwards, but because of the shape, it never did, I also let it drop down on the path, as if it had been thrown, but on the day it happened it never made a noise as if being thrown and hitting the path.

This really spooked me. It took me a few weeks to tell my family. It is now in a draw in the house and I wrapped it in a red cloth, don't know why. Has anyone any ideas as to what happened?

A friend of mine , who I told about the incident, said that he had read somewhere about medicine men having stones to help heal people and that the medicine man never found the stone but the stone found them. Don't get me wrong, I am not native american, but actually live in England.

If you can help please do, I need answers. Thanks. May the Great Spirit go with you.
 
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  Post  - Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:25 pm Reply with quote  
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WOW......I wonder if Sage can move this to the dreams board, it might get more play over there.

Hopefully Owl will come along and read this....Owl is extremely good at dream interpretation.

I have a childhood recurring dream as well......it never made much sense but as time has passed I am beginning to understand parts of it.

I will say I am certain that pebble was sent to you .... and I do know some native societies believe in reincarnation so it is possible you've walked this plane before in another guise.

I cannot wait to hear others ideas.

Thank you for sharing this it is an amazing dream.....

And welcome to the path
 
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  Post  - Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:27 pm Reply with quote  
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Welcome Yellow Dog.  I encourage you to note our introductions page and hope you'll say hello to our family.   I have broken your missive up a bit (I hope you won't mind so it is a bit easier to read thru).  Our Owl is very powerful in interpreting dreams, oftimes we work together on the hard ones.

Your dream is more than a dream Hun, it is a memory or I should say memories.   If you will indulge me I would like some time to ponder all of this.  It is wondrous good you have such detail..I feel many things but would be clear before answering fully and I shall paragraph by paragraph.

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I tend to agree with Sage, it felt much more like memories.
 
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Thanks to Sage and herding cats for their replies hope to get answers from anyone interested.
 
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You will my friend, remember the many time zones we live in and many here will be done with work and be home this weekend and will have a read.   I'll be back once I have read this is more depth.

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  Post  - Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:00 am Reply with quote  
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Be Patient with me Yellow Dog...it takes much to translate the signs and words and feelings.  I will reply within your words but in " "...I will also have questions and we go bit by bit for now.
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You said:
The dreams always have the same themes, but I don't get them all the time, sometimes I can go for months or years, then something seems to trigger them off again.

I ask:
"This has gone on almost a lifetime....think slowly and picture, if you can, what triggers compose them?  A smell, a taste, seeing something that feels so familiar?  A death or illness in the family?  Even family members not long seen then revisited?   Triggers are good to try to find..."

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  Post  - Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:19 am Reply with quote  
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I seem to have something like buckskin trousers on. The next thing, I am in a dark place, I don't know where, but I seem to be looking at myself. Through the darkness I can just make out that I seem to be a native Indian of some kind. My hair is long with like two braids at the front and I have a black band, around two inches wide, across my eyes and bridge of my nose to my ears, my skin is sweaty.


This one sounds like you are in a sweatlodge.  I do know the sweatlodge is used to prepare for ceremony, or visionquests, marriages, other important events. Which is interesting because the first part

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I find myself sat crossed legged, on top of a small hill. As I look around there is nothing but like a blue-green grass, as far as the eye can see, no one else is around and no animals. The land isn't level, there are other small, rounded hills. The day is pleasantly warm, and the breeze makes the grass sway, like waves on the sea.


Sounds alot like the isolation one seeks to go within when on a visionquest.
The teepee description sounds like the teepee of either a shaman or a chief (or both in some cases).

I am beginning to get an idea but the dreams feel out of sequence, so let me think on it some more.........
 
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Yes Cats...I am trying to see them in sequence as well....it is very much the sweatlodge, preparation for a quest...only the powerful of a clan own the Eagle and the stone I am trying to see...the first thing that comes to mind is topaz but I am uncertain of that yet...bit more time...oh Owl my friend...this dream has big medicine in it....

Tell me..have you asked for your guides?  Who they are?  Do you know them?  There are 2, I feel at least.

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  Post Re: meaning of dream - Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2008 3:02 pm Reply with quote  
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yellowdog wrote:
Hi,
   
I find myself sat crossed legged, on top of a small hill. As I look around there is nothing but like a blue-green grass, as far as the eye can see, no one else is around and no animals. The land isn't level, there are other small, rounded hills. The day is pleasantly warm, and the breeze makes the grass sway, like waves on the sea.

I seem to have something like buckskin trousers on. The next thing, I am in a dark place, I don't know where, but I seem to be looking at myself. Through the darkness I can just make out that I seem to be a native Indian of some kind. My hair is long with like two braids at the front and I have a black band, around two inches wide, across my eyes and bridge of my nose to my ears, my skin is sweaty.

Around my neck there is some kind of necklace This necklace consists of a large eagle claw, the talons of which are firmly holding some kind of transparent blue stone, the size of a small chicken egg, eagle feathers are attached to the claw and some kind of beading. The blue stone is flawless having no marks on or in it, you can see straight through it. Any ideas what stone this could be?



I feel this place is in the Dakotas, rolling hills of green and much open space.  I also feel you are of the Sioux, there were 7 bands I believe.  I am of the Haudenosauneee and do not claim to know alot about the Lakota.  But I have been to their lands and the picture you paint is one I have seen.

Men and women painted only in times of war/raiding or ceremony.  This feels very ceremonial.  The black is of mourning.  Many clans believed once one has passed you may not speak the name or look upon them so you do not hold their spirit here and that you are not pulled away by them as they leave....thus the black across the eyes and bridge of the nose.

(I wish Shannon/Mountain Woman would chime in..she knows this clan
better than I)

In their youth the males would hide in baskets holding a live rabbit on a thong tempting the eagles to swoop down and catch them.  Blessed was the boy who caught one but he was not allowed to kill it, only take afew feathers- tho at times an eagle was needed and caged briefly for ceremony.
 
If a man or woman found an Eagle already dead in their path, this was great medicine and the eagle was gifting this person the eagle power and the body would be honored..every bit of it.  Wings, tail feathers, all feathers, and the legs with claws would oftimes be smoked and wrapped around a significant object...in your case a blue stone.  

This stone was found on a trek and placed in a sacred place until the eagle was found.  The medicine woman smoked it for you and placed the topaz, and yes I do feel it is topaz (found in Utah and Dakota territory). then created this medicine necklace.  You were a Shaman in learning, we in the Haudenosaunee called it Sachem.  Your sister is beside you but that is for the next post.  

*please note these are the impressions I get..many others will feel their own...all can be correct and by listening to all, you may find the clarity you seek*

More shortly

Topaz is said to enhance one's spiritual potential, to increase intelligence and creativity, and to impart wisdom. It also is said to aid in meditation and in manifestation.
Topaz is said to be a strong, healing, and rejuvenating mineral, giving new vitality and good health, and protection against sickness.
Blue topaz is said to enhance one's communicative abilities, helping to more easily and clearly express oneself.

*this would have a been a very powerful stone for the Medicine/Shaman/Sachem*



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  Post  - Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:34 am Reply with quote  
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Sage,
       Once again thanx to you and everyone who is helping find the meaning of my dreams etc.. Ihave tried many times to find help from native americans but they seem reluctant to help for some reason. Isee in your last post that you are of the haudenosaunee, are you full native american and do your family have healing backgrounds? Are the haudenosaunee of the iroquois tribe?
       With your regards to the eagle claw etc., a few years ago on walking the dog, I came upon a dead hawk and for some reason I cut the leg and claw off this bird and have kept it in a draw since.
       Since childhood I have had many experiences of going to places and of being there before, also just on one occassion around the age of 4 or5, I remember quite clearly I had been in bed asleep, then suddenly found myself outside our house, , but I didn't walk I kind of floated, it was dark outside and the night was still,it was a great feeling, then it went. I havn't had this since.
        In August last year, we sadly lost my father in law, but strange things have happened since, things go missing then some time after we find them. I also get strange cold feelings now and again which makes the hairs on my body stand up.
        Also in your previous post you ask if I have asked my guides, now this is another strange thing. I keep getting a picture in my mind of a native american man sitting on the ground, he has like buckskins on with tassles down the arms and legs, a band around his forhead and one feather at the back of his head. He never moves its just like a still picture and also a few months ago, I was up late, I switched the tv and lights of and turned to go towards the stairs to bed, when I saw a glimpse of a dark shadow stood at the bottom of the stairs which seemed to be like the image of a very old native american with a wide brim hat on and a blanket wrapped around him, his hair was platted and grey, to say I went quite cold is an understatement, but I wasn't frightened and just walked past up the stares but had a feeling of being watched. Don't know if it was the light and shadow playing tricks or what, but it never happened before or since.
 
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Forgive the length of time it has taken me to get back to you YellowDog.   It has  been a week of loud for me.

Addressing your FIL...we have many here, myself included, who recieve signs and visions and scent of those gone before us.  My dad surrounds me with his warmth and pipe tobacco/Irish Spring soap smell..I hear him chuckle time to time.  Not too long ago he came on a hard nite for me and we listened to old songs like when I was a child.  He will come round your FIL, leave wee signs asking you to note he comes by.  Have no fear just say hello, ask questions just as tho he stood before you.  They just wish to know we do well and if not offer some solace.

The Indian at the foot of the stairs I would think is a guide.  Speak to them YellowDog, ask for names, faces, anything you wish.  Our guides are just that..around waiting to guide but we must first acknowledge their existence.

Your dream I have thought long and hard about.  The person being laid in the cave is a father, perhaps you and your sisters?  The lodge is of a Medicine person.  Thunderbirds are big medicine, I have one of my own having been thru a striking tho grounded luckily.  I wear a mark.  The colors of the 4 directions are white, black, red and yellow.

This person laid to rest with such love and care is left with all the things "He" will need in the next plain of existence.  The view you see from above it his view through your eyes as son.  You will need to fill the shoes he has left behind...it is a big step.  Yes, YellowDog, some clans do believe in another life, thus the giving of so much for their journey after death.  We believe there is no death just a great circle of lives.

The pebble..now that is sign, no doubt.  Boo should tell you of her dimes.  I will ask her.  Bring the stone out and lay it proudly in a sunshine place.  Hold it now and again and think of who sent it and I am betting you'll feel him.  It's a gift for he he sent.  He is well and happy and watching you all.  You, being the man in charge..he manifests the signs to you.  he does to the others but many times they don't or won't see or feel.

Healing stones and crystals have been round since the dawn of time.  Oftimes a stone does find the one it seeks.  Oftimes one can be in front of many stones and be called to just one (or more).  I believe.  I live the stones.  

I hope in some small way I have helped.  Our Mountain Woman knows more about the Lakota.  I shall ask her as well.  And YellowDog..one need not be of Indian blood to walk the Red Road.  If you wish to learn it and walk it, you have only to take the first step.

Oh and the hawk...if you find one like this, usually they offer themselves or parts there of...my own offered his wings but I could not bear to cut them, so I took his tail feathers to honor his spirit.  You should create a Sacred Space with your special stone, claw and other things you hold dear.

Walk in beauty and in a good way, YellowDog and I hope we see more of you here on our Path.  

Sage

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hi once again, just like to say thanx to everyone for helping with my dreams etc.. I recently remembered other things which had happend in my daily life, which trigger memories of previous life, such as when we , here in england, celebrate ' bonfire night ', or if I have a fire to get rid of rubbish, I find myself sitting and staring at the fire and have strange feelings of sitting around a large fire with other people but not those I am with, I feel very peaceful and could sit there for hours.
        Also when I go near horses and stroke them, i get a feeling as if i have ridden one before, though I never have, I can actually feel myself on a horse,like a grey-brown colour, with no saddle and I look at my shadow on the ground and I see a shadow of like a young boy with long hair, flowing in the wind. I also got this image when I was younger, riding my bike, as I had long flowing hair when I was around 13 years of age, and it gave me a similar feeling, when seeing my shadow on the floor.
        Does anyone have any ideas what the hand symbol with the spot near the right side of the wrist, on the shield, inside the tepee, in my dream means.
 
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Then I am inside a tepee of some kind. On the inside I see four shields, one has a large print of a hand on it, with a large dot to the right of it, near where the wrist would be, these are both in red. Another has what I now believe to be the image of a thunderbird, this is in black, I don't see what is on the other two shields. On the floor is what seem to be like fur rugs and some wooden structures, I don't know if these are boxes or some kind of seating.


Yellowdog:  Maybe the 4 shields are the 4 elements of life.  The thunderbird would be the wind.  The red hand with the red dot could represent fire.  The other 2 would be water and earth.  

Hope this helps.

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yellowdog wrote:
hi once again, just like to say thanx to everyone for helping with my dreams etc.. I recently remembered other things which had happened in my daily life, which trigger memories of previous life, such as when we , here in england, celebrate ' bonfire night ', or if I have a fire to get rid of rubbish, I find myself sitting and staring at the fire and have strange feelings of sitting around a large fire with other people but not those I am with, I feel very peaceful and could sit there for hours.
        Also when I go near horses and stroke them, i get a feeling as if i have ridden one before, though I never have, I can actually feel myself on a horse,like a grey-brown colour, with no saddle and I look at my shadow on the ground and I see a shadow of like a young boy with long hair, flowing in the wind. I also got this image when I was younger, riding my bike, as I had long flowing hair when I was around 13 years of age, and it gave me a similar feeling, when seeing my shadow on the floor.
        Does anyone have any ideas what the hand symbol with the spot near the right side of the wrist, on the shield, inside the tepee, in my dream means.


Ah YellowDog, you walk well now..you are contemplating quietly and those triggers I mentioned are coming forth.I do believe in past life memory and I do believe our guides show us many things when life is quiet.  Fire was a central need and pleasure of the people...it warmed, we cooked with it, used to see in the dark of night, made love and babies by the glow, planned life of the group as the power figures.  Fire is one of the 4 elements...Fire, Earth, Air & Water.  All part of the 4 directions which are the core of the 7 directions.  Do you know these?  I am happy to post about them..I really should anyway.

As for the horse and the shadow pictures....Horses came later to the Lakota but you may well have been that eager young man/boy wanting to prove himself in all ways a man.  I shall do some sheild research.  Each shield was usually unique and never duplicated..it held the owners medicine and power.  A hand usually depicts healing or a count...a spot I just am not sure of..it could have been the sheild owner's own hand...I shall do a bit of research for you.



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