Interesting thought

herding cats · Interesting thought

So yesterday I went to the Library before work and checked out a bunch of books....well this one book I am still not entirely sure why I checked it out but read it today at work and it is interesting.....

Ran across this and it kinda caught me.....I normally do not hate because I find it makes me miserable and no effect on the object of my hatred.......however this statement made me stop and think......

To hate with ones entire being is one of the greatest virtues, as it forces you to look at and face some of your deepest desires.

I tend to check out books the way some here select stones...lol...I often go to a general topic then just sort of zone out and select whatever sounds interesting.......so I come home with this type of selection....a book on Indian feng shui....tantra without tears ...adventure is my business (a book about a northwest hunter) Olympic peninsula rivers...a ginormous book on bolt action rifles and a book on Buddhist practice...lol

Sage/Debs · Re: Interesting thought

BooBoo

I agree with Sage........

As I've said before.....and believe.....Like begets Like.....this includes Hate.

The only purpose I see in God creating Hate or Negativity is so we humans (God's Children) will be able know the difference between them from Love and Goodness.....and learn from it.

Maryann

herding cats

I don't know...if I am unwilling to embrace the side of myself that is dark then I am denying myself a part of me......you cannot have positive without negative.....and I just successfully went into the dark dark corners of my own mind and escaped on my own ...so now I am curious about those feelings I felt and...welll like a cat one day curiosity might kill me, but until then ..... I will do what I do I guess even if it is completely outside the norm of those outside the norms...

BooBoo

Exactly. God created both positive and negative.......or how would we know the difference?

Think about it.......There is an opposite for everything and I believe our Creator did this on purpose.....

Light/Dark

Up/Down

In/Out

Hot/Cold

Good/Evil

Happy/Sad

Life/Death

This could go on and on.........

I could take this another step, but I think I'd better let things sit for now.

Ma---

herding cats

Well I don't believe in god.....so that puts a kink in it....

and I can't explain my beliefs in a way that will make any sense so won't try too hard.....

the hermit

The words "hate" and "but" should be removed
Hate is too strong a word
Maybe "dislike" would be better
The other can be replaced with "however" or another word
It is amazine how your written word can change

BooBoo

Kind of like praying with the word "IF"...........

Cats, I have a hard time visualizing creation without a creator. There are too many parallels. "Everything happens for a reason." Love you.

the hermit

I thing you have my train of thought Boo Boo q18

Sage/Debs

This is a good thinking.
I believe in a great Spirit being.
One who minds the people and creatures of the Earth best as can be done, considering we have free will and muck it up at times BUT believe I do.

Each morning and night I honor the 7...one of which is Spirit, one of which is ME for I am Spirit and Spirit is me..
Then I do a Reiju, which is not Spirit BUT spiritual.

Having free will we can love/hate etc.
The human is the only creature who creates hate.
Animals never do, not the birds or the crawling, it is always a growl, a hiss, a sqwauk, then lives moves on.

When one hates..how do you feel?
Hot and bothered and growlie and miserable.
How do you feel when you let it go and be?
soft and warm, open and lit?

(YOU being a universal you not any one person).

Not all humans believe in a "God".
I respect that, but I do think they believe in something, maybe call it a force? Correct me if I am wrong.

In the Buddism, there is much Spirituality, honoring Buddah. Maybe that equates to my honoring Spirit? This is my upbringing mixed all up with Methodist/Catholic. I chose the old ways of my gran. The Nature/Natural ways of the People.

Within any discord, anger, fury or other negative feeling I rarely ever feel "hate" any more. Perhaps it is an age thing, where we have learnt hate begets pain.

I, for one, do not see how this "virtue could lead me to any of my deepest desires", so I will not agree with the writer.

But isn't it wonderful! to be able to disagree, and discuss..and haha no hate!

herding cats

well without hate then wouldn't we be without passion?........and I know I have passion it is an intense almost overpowering emotion that is linked to love and desire and wanting.......
it is the force that keeps me going when I want to quit and give up.......

as for the god and gods topic I use deities as images and focus points but do not worship them in a western religious way, they are more of a symbol for me.....

like Diana goddess of the hunt tied to the moon her image is powerful and so I use it when I want to focus on things considered her virtues...of course she also turned the dude who spied on her while she was bathing into a stag that was then torn limb from limb by her hunting dogs...or so the story goes...love that story.....

Tantra is sometimes seen as the darker side of buddhism sort of like the secret sects whispered about in the catholic church or the silly stories told about the masons. Because it openly embraces the darker side and uses things like sex and fear to reach enlightenment. Actually what I am finding is it pushes you to experience and embrace those things that scare you until they no longer have any power over you....hence the hate and desire idea.....I also find the description of karma as attachments and connections that follow you until you change interesting.....rather than a balancing karma is actually our own unfinished work bringing situations to us to resolve......this makes a ton of sense to me. I sometimes think maybe I should just keep this to myself but I know others here like to share and I am trying to feel like I can share here safely but some of what I believe is not all light and fluffy some of what I have practiced is not all white light and goodness......part of me is dark and to embrace me I have to accept my dark side or I will forever continue to break........I don't know why I am revisiting these but I am....and usually there is something I need from a book otherwise I don't read it....even fun books just take me away for a while to escape my life and play in another world.

and just because it struck me

Sage this statement

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