Geopathic stress, dowsing and the energy fields of the earth

Sage/Debs

I had never heard of this except in respect to a dowser searching for water in the old days, or the dowser finding thr spot for a church door before building. My son was born Jan of 1991. I was 35 and he was a total shock. We bought an old 1830 home which was an old school house in the 50s.

From the day I brought my son home...he cried. Nothing I could do would soothe this child to get him to sleep. I'd spend all day caring for my daughter, then 6, and a baby. My husband would come home to a very frazzled wife. He'd take Shain and lay on the couch and damn if the baby/child would sleep. On Dec 25th 1992 we found Shain had a bilateral inguinal hernia and he had surgery the following February. He also had continuous colds/allergy reactions..runny nose cough fever, malaise. This went on for almost 2 years.

My dad, one day, was telling his boss about my son and his trouble sleeping. Bill offered to dowse my home and find the trouble. He said there are vortexes and energy fields that can cause this. So I drew a picture of my home with the windows, doors, furniture drawn in and labels who slept where. I have the diagram now down at the bottom finally!!!

I'm an idiot, my "voice" said to me early this morning...."use photobucket". It worked!
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What we discovered was amazing. There was a huge vortex of 3 energy fields converging in Shain's room one path was running thru his bed area. Bill suggested we immediately move his bed and cleanse his room. Back then, I didn't do what I do now but it was the reawakening of what I knew when I was 20. He patiently taught me about the earth's energy and the vortexes in it and how to "feel". When my son was 6 we moved here to the cabin. We lived in the cellar while the cabin itself was being completed. I dowsed the cellar and found proper sleeping places for all of us. When we moved up into the cabin 4 yrs ago...I had to redo it and beds were placed, sitting rooms were fixed. I sleep in the loft. Up there the energies change for some reason. Alot has to do with the moon and the earth's energies combined. I find I have to move my bed and the energies move also. Sometimes as far as the other side of the room and it's a huge room, my loft. This is the first time I have shared this with a living soul. I guess I should own up to it as one more facet of who I am.
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Now here is what Bill wrote in 1989, and shared with me when he taught me for learning.

GEOPATHIC STRESS

Most people understand and recognize stress as an intangible force or condition that places the human body under a strain. This stress appears to originate from the work, financial, & social envirionment of our modern lifestyles. The effects are manifested in various ways but predominantly cause tension, anxiety or distress to the individual involved. Most people also recognize that those types of stress, if sufficiently strong and prolonged, can and does result in illness. This illness can be either physical or mental or both in nature and can have serious and detrimental effects on an individual. Metal breakdowns and/or completely debilitating health states are not uncommon and can require major medical or psychological care. People in general, tend to understand this is just a part of life.

Few people are aware that the body can unknowingly be placed under other stress patterns or body malfunctions by forces such as "man-made electric/electromagnetic fields or naturally occurring earth energy fields.

A growing number of people are now becoming conscious of the possible, or more likely "probable" health impact of manmade electrical energies. As the evidence continues to mount, people are becoming more aware and concerned with long term effects of frequent and continual exposure to the now existing fields caused by the broad and growing use of electrical enery. These energies can be detected by modern instruments and are currently being studied by medical and scientific professionals. Several books have been written on the subject. While few conclusions have been reached at this time (1989), most evidence is pointing in the direction of grave concern.

Geo-pathic stress, which is separate and less recognized, has additional concerns. It is caused by earth energy fields that exist naturally in our environment. As the name "geopathic" implies, these energies usually emanate from the earth and are a commonly occurring state. They are similar to the magnetic/electromagnetic forces, with which we are familiar, but they act and occur much differently. Although considerable experimentation is being done, the energies canot generally be detected or measured by currently existing technology.

These subtle energies, termed earth energy lines or sometimes noxious rays, run in lines or rays along and above the surface of the earth. They are found to exist at random as well as uniform grid patterns and at specific points where they form a "vortex". The energies are also found to be associated with underground water veins. It should be pointed out that the energies flow through a residence or other structure without abatement, in a manner similar to an x-ray. These forces can be detected by a person, usually called a "dowser". A dowser is sensitive to the energies and has sufficient experience and knowledge to obtain and interpret the reactions of these fields and veins.

It appears that at sometime in their life, almost everyone, if exposed enough, will experience some negative effect from these. Children seem to be more sensitive than adults. For people who are being affected by exposure to these energies, the results can be similar to those of normal stress patterns. The basic effects include such conditions as: insomnia, tension, restlessness, as well as the old "I'm so tired all the time" or "I just never feel good". Of even greater concern, is the fact that these energies appear to retard or even prevent the healing or recovery of individuals who do become ill. Some people are of the opinion that the energies actually become the illness. This may be true but at present it seems more likely that the immune system is suppressed making the person more suseptible to sickness and weakness. There seems little doubt that an ill person with continued exposure to these fields will find recovery from an illness difficult, prolonged or impossible.

While the energies themselves are only detectable by a dowser, geopathic strss as a health problem is currently being diagnosed as a health problem and is currently being diagnosed in Europe and by a limited number of doctors in this country using the EAV technique (electroaccupuncture according to Voll). Medical treatment at present is extemely limited. A qualified dowser on the other hand can determine the presence of the energies and make recommendations for steps to minimize or avoid and correct adverse reactions.

Modern science and medical circles in general, do not accept or recognize this geopathic position, however it has been in existence with sucessful use for several thousand years, being utilized in ancient China, Polynesia and other ancient histories. In light of the available mass of positive evidence, it would seem only prudent for any individual to consult with a dowser experienced in geopathic energy. They should seriously consider having their residence and/or workplace dowsed for the presence of negative energies. If moving or buying or buiding a new home, it would make good sense to have the new site checked before committing.

THIS is not and should NOT be considered as medical advice or treatment and any illness should be referred to a medical doctor. MY thoughts are that in conjunction with said doctor...and alternative thought and practice...these individuals can feel better. Written by Bill Rogers published 1993
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Sorry so long but I became a firm believer. Dowsing can be learned but one having the instinct finds it much easier to absorb and do. I have more, very personal...his own personal story on his life, the loss of his wife, and his discovery that within his family dowsing was a way of life and he was born to it.

Leave it to be said...I moved Shain's bed and he slept form then on. Do I believe? youbetcha. I use stones and crystals also to deflect negative energy. There are small ceremonies one can do to cleanse and clear these negative energies at least temporarily; being as dowsers are hard to find.

Each person who spends time in front of a computer for any length of time, TV, video games, head phones...should be aware of the electromagnetic and electric fields these things put out. They can and do affect us. Debs

herding cats

Using feng shui principles to change energy patterns also works really well. I also know someone who makes coper spiral windchimes that are perfect for helping to fix energy.

cool thanks for sharing

woodnldy

feng shui is so neat. I got my daughter in law started in that and she is getting very good.

Sage/Debs

Yup, big fan of feng shui

herding cats

I would love to CLAIM to be a feng shui user....and I do try....but no matter how much I do....it seems my home is plagued with "clutter vortexes" q27

There is some entity or entities that seem to think any horizontal surface must be covered as quickly as possible with "stuff" q48

woodnldy

UH I thought that was peculiar to my house. q18

I hardly ever throw things away,might need them tomorrow

horsefeathers

Oh dear, I may be in real trouble

I hate, no, change that to HATE to move furniture. I have always said that I would make a good blind person because I never move anything (thank the Lord I'm not blind tho). I just can't seem to throw anything away either. I am getting better at that since my Mom passed. We only have a daughter and she isn't a 'keeper' like me. So when we went thru Mom's house, everytime I would want to keep something, she would say, I hope you throw it away before you die cause I don't want it. q25

So, as I am trying to throw away some clutter I keep that in mind. Also, I kept things that I thought 'might' become valuable in time.....well, nothing has and my 'timeframe' for it to become valuable is getting shorter, so, out it goes!
And like Woodnldy, anything that's level has a stack of something. I told my hubby he needs to build me tables that 'V' at the top, I'll just fasten a lamp to the sides. That way I can't stack. (I am a VERY good stacker tho q21

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Pam

Sage/Debs

Now in the diagram..can you see where the 3 energy fields overlap in poor Shain's room forming a vortex! One went right thru his bed..poor kid. When we moved the bed and cleansed the vortex, he was fine.

pepipony · wow, do I have a lot to learn

I have always loved rock hounding. Dad did it, his dad did it, I wasnt the son they wanted, but I do it too LOL I actually feel really good while hunting and can get over a headache ( I have Lyme disease, headaches are a daily thing) if I go hunt for a bit. I need to read more into this.

woodnldy

Pepi, do you go to the same area mostly?? I posted an arieal map and Deb/sage did a reading for me and she found an energy place in one area that I was pretty sure had one. She confirmed it for me tho. Anyone else try the map??
Cheryl

pepipony · Rockhounding

Cheryl, yes, for right now just my immediate area. If I cant get there with my 4-wheeler, then its too far LOL We are having a ton of gas well drilling around here, there are many new dirt roads, pad sites and berm wholes being dug for them. I have more than a few pieces of Petrified wood that I thought were going to bust my 4-wheeler but darnitallanyway, they were coming home LOL In about a 1 suare mile area, I have hardly searched at all and I still have about 2, maybe even 3 tons of Pet Wood. I only recently joined this site, I need to figure how to post pics and then I will.
Sounds interesting to see if there are any energy sites/vortexes around here. Course guess XTO energy knows where they all are. Ba Dum Bum q14

woodnldy

Got XTO and Seeco and a couple of others playing in our area too. Thats what the orange lines are on the maps. I doubt if most of those guys have any idea about an energy vortex or Ley line.(not the ones I have met LOL)

herding cats

Actually there are quite a few "drillers" that use dowsers. I would not be surprised if some of these companies actually have staff dowsers.

I am able to dowse for water. I can also usually find bad energy spots in my home and on my property. I am not as good at ley lines......most likely due to lack of practice.

I tried to read your map, even got out my rods.......

like a buffoon I did not print it out........the energy field from a computer screen makes rods do some pretty amusing things q27

without the rods I keep going to what appears to be a pond, lake, swamp? and strangely I kept pulling to the orange lines........even eyes closed......so I am no help q12

BooBoo

Sorry........but I'm just skimming the subject right now..........

But yes. In this area -- being a high desert -- there are a lot of "water locators" and I stopped one a couple of months ago and asked him. YES, they DO dowse!!!! I thought that was so cool........

woodnldy

LOL Cats , you were following the natural gas lines when you followed the orange lines and that is a lake, about 8 to 10) acres worth
so its a lot of water(20 ft deep at deepest) I have been trying to find a piece of regular crystal to make a pendulum out of to try with the dowsing. right now I have a Jade pendant that works for me a little. What are your rods made of cats??

herding cats

Sage/Debs

That is so neat cats, I have tons of willow, maybe I'll try that..I usually just "feel them" in my hands and feet. q19

Time Traveler

This is a gift tht I totally didn't get! The discussion here is amazing & I do believe in dowsing, but it's something I have no talent for. Not that I've ever tried, but I don't get a sense of it myself. You Rock!!

woodnldy

My dad could take two copper rods(bent in an L shape) and find a buried gas,water or any other metal line. And we had an older gentleman dowse when we had our water well drilled, he used a forked branch from a peach tree. He said any kind of fruit tree branch worked. he said it would be a deep well but a very good one. It is too,both deep and plenty water. TT you have gifts too that I wish I could get working. The differences are what makes us who we are and thats what is wonderful. We are all learning to use more of what we have thanks to Deb/Sage. Isn't she a wonder q18

herding cats

TT just keep trying. I am such a water baby that it just makes sense LOL.

Try finding some copper any size will do and just bend into two rods.....I will try to post a pic of mine later this evening when things quiet down round here

If you happen to have a place you know there is underground water it can help get you started. What I did was just start walking back and forth over a water line.......I slowly let my mind veg into that almost meditation zoned out space..........what should happen is the rods will cross.....it might even shock you right out of the zone....I dropped the willow branch the first time it actually worked (willow branch bends downward usually)

when you move away the rods will move out to a neutral position.......

If you've successfully done the ringtest with mares....you should be able to dowse......it is a similar energy connection thingy (like that super techy lingo q21

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Geopathic stress, dowsing and the energy fields of the earth

wow, do I have a lot to learn

Rockhounding