Final Chapter? dream

Time Traveler · Final Chapter? dream

(After re--reading) Maybe this should be in general dream category, but I was reading Debs' post on "new house" when I decided to post == sorry if it's wrong place.

Now that I'm an "old woman," I spend much time pondering the meaning of life as well as what will happen at the end of life in this body. Sometimes the wondering spills into dreams.

The night Debs had her "new house" dream, I had this one, apparently during the same hours.

I was sitting in front of a computer at work, but was wearing a beautiful green medieval dress. I also wore a nicely-sized square reddish stone ring. I couldn't see "myself" completely, just what I would see if I were in my own body, just as in everyday, aware of the clothes on my body and my hands.

Suddenly about 6 or 7 women walked up to me. They each held a white sheet of paper. They began to sing, but so quietyly that I couldn't hear what they were singing. I tried hard but couldn't.

Then one stepped up, spread her arms & said " (My full name), this is YOUR life!" Each in turn read something from the papers. I couldn't hear what they were saying again!

I thot -- this is it? This is how it ends? This is what happens when you die? I was very disappointed that this is all you get!

Then, for some reason, I looked to the side & saw a TV with the channel numbers lit up that said "16."

I got up from where I was, turned around, proceeded up a muddy trail past a barn where people were unloading rabbits in cages from a show that had been held there.

I saw miniature horses, lots of them in a pen, & thot I recognized a few, but then thot, no those aren't mine.

I proceeded on the muddy track & knew I was heading towards one of my medieval events. I could hear the music and see the flags flying atop the tents. But I was, I knew, heading much deeper than an "event."

Perhaps it comes to this, a theory I had heard ages ago: When you die, the next plane takes you where you believe an eternal life might be. If you imagine it to be green pastures filled with horses, it is. If you imagine it to be a return to your childhood with your parents, it is; etc etc. In essence, each person's "heaven" (if you use that term) is self-made. Each is individual, as are our lives.

Any thots on this?

Sage/Debs · Re: Final Chapter? dream

BooBoo

Time Traveler......

What if you have NO idea what to expect? Except perhaps to be reunited with the people and animals we love........

Time Traveler

BooBoo -- I have no answers, only questions. What I had introduced in my post was a theory, not a fact.

I sometimes don't know if I'd like to know the answer as to what comes next. Sometimes I think we're biological units and just go away into blackness. That's beyond unsettling to me. If we don't what's ahead -- all we can do is theorize. Some believe they do know what's ahead. It must be very comforting. Nice topic for Easter morning, huh? But then organized religion is a problem for me too. Are you all thinking "Blasphemer!!!" Sorry, but it's the way I am.

Debs: I'm not meaning that dreams are a key to our cumulative future. Maybe they are a hint. I don't know. It would take a far greater mind than mine to even pretend to know. But, the theory I mentioned is that in waking life, we have beliefs that are truly ourselves. We covet certain parts of our lives as the dearest. Are those our future "eternity?"

I don't believe in heaven or hell, per se, as expounded by some religions. Go ahead, color me bad, but that's the truth for ME. I'm just looking for alternate opinions as to what YOU EACH personally believe to be the eternity waiting for us, or not.

There's no judgement here. No right or wrong. I'd just like a little discussion. I do believe in "Judge not, lest you too be judged."

Our own individual belief systems are very personalized. Just looking for your thots on the possibilities. Do we make our own heaven? Is there one? Is heaven already a predetermined "place" or "plane?" What? Just continued searching...........

Just FYI, I've looked at Buddism, Christianity, Hinduism, Paganism, Diest, Panthism, and more. I don't mean I've practiced them \ I just mean I've dabbled in trying to understand their theories. I am only lightly read in them. Trying to see other views. Searching & comparing. Always looking to learn more. Learning is enlightenment. Just wondering how you see things ......looking to learn. Learning to look - TT

Time Traveler

That's one of the things that confuses me. Ok, say, there is nothing. But then, I experience something, shall we say, "strange," which makes me doubt the nothing theory.

Sage/Debs

IMHO TT, there can't be "nothing", all that energy, all those souls, all those people and things and animals....I cannot, will not, believe that our creator intended for each life to be done fade to black....I like to think we get a "do over" and over and over until we are reunited with the proper time place and being...I think we are granted "peeks into times past and those yet to come, as a favor to show us what is "possible". The me that I see, that I feel, is still evolving and I know she'll get there one day, maybe not in this life (tho I purely hope so) but maybe the next...each level moves us closer to the light that is ultimately us! That's my feelings and I'll stick to em!

Time Traveler

And you should, Debs. I'm just looking for discussion. What you describe seems somewhat along the lines of Nirvana (Buddhism).

woodnldy

TT, I too, have a serious problem with most organized religions. But I have seen and felt enough that" I DO" believe in a higher power. this is all pretty deep and at this time I have my 14 year old nephew to stay for a few more days so I am having trouble thinking (LOL) I have always thought that many people make their own Hell right here on this earth and live in it daily(so why have one after death?) And others accept and make their lives Heaven. I have always felt that reincarnation is a definite probability. Like the connection you and Deb have. We meet these people and its like we have known them forever. Is there an afterlife? Maybe,for a short ,till we decide where we want to go for the next stop. Man , I am rambling. Do I make any sense? q18

I may get back on for a while as my nephew will be on the puter for a bit. But I will be back later HEHE Love you all

anahata1961

TT, I may be late in this discussion but yesterday I was doing yoga with my friend and brought up the discussion of heaven. She is more of a conventional christian so I was sur[rised by her take. I had made a remark about a post (always discret) that wondred if we enter "heaven" how we desire it. Ibrought up the movie "What Dreams May Come " with Robin Williams. I was amazed but her take was we are allowed to create this existence in the plane.

I do believe that plane exists, but just a holding ground til reincarnation.

I hate too bring science into this subject, just as my usband is very much into science I am always suprised by what he believes in. One day I asked him if he believed in god (higher power) and a spirit. He stated that the more one learns about science the more one cannot ignore a great force to have created all of this. Energy , he stated, can not be created or destroyed. It just changes shape, and since we are energy, we never end.

Just a few thoughts from a sleepy brain. q25

BooBoo

Your husband was talking Physics! I love telling that to people who are questioning life after death, but believe in science. It at least gets them to open their minds more.

anahata1961

Don't you just love it. Science is now proving things that before were unexplainable.

There was even a book, I can't remember the name, that scientifically looked at reiki. They mesured frequency and everything. The one thing that still sticks out in my mind, is that the research stated that the room that reiki is given in, raises in temperature.

I know it does for me and always need to wear sleeveless shirt. Off topic a bit...sorry.

Time Traveler

Then there's the school of scientists who say they have discovered 11 -- that's ELEVEN -- different planes of existence. And all running into and over each other. then the theory of universe as membrane. National Geographic show about it, which might simply be called "Parallel Universe." I can't quite remember the name, but that might be it.

Here's something I copied from a website I found. Yes, science is really looking into this. This little quote is embryonic compared to what they discuss on the NatGeo show. I think the site is called Xenogere.

" If the research bears out as reliable and verifiable, this is very cool! Part of theoretical physics (or, more specifically, quantum mechanics), something called the all-worlds or many-worlds theory (a.k.a. multiple histories), states that all possible events occur, each giving rise to its own universe and time line. That is, for every possible outcome, divergent realities are created where those outcomes take place. To wit (from the article):

Parallel universes really do exist, according to a mathematical discovery by Oxford scientists described by one expert as “one of the most important developments in the history of science”.

The parallel universe theory, first proposed in 1950 by the US physicist Hugh Everett, helps explain mysteries of quantum mechanics that have baffled scientists for decades, it is claimed.

In Everett’s “many worlds” universe, every time a new physical possibility is explored, the universe splits. Given a number of possible alternative outcomes, each one is played out - in its own universe.

A motorist who has a near miss, for instance, might feel relieved at his lucky escape. But in a parallel universe, another version of the same driver will have been killed. Yet another universe will see the motorist recover after treatment in hospital. The number of alternative scenarios is endless.

It is a bizarre idea which has been dismissed as fanciful by many experts. But the new research from Oxford shows that it offers a mathematical answer to quantum conundrums that cannot be dismissed lightly - and suggests that Dr Everett, who was a Phd student at Princeton University when he came up with the theory, was on the right track."

It doesn't explain where we go or where we come from, but it is food for thought. -- TT

Sage/Debs

Oh I like that train of alternative universes! I believe!

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